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	<title>Comments on: Sharing some of my thoughts on viral marketing &#8211; The Viral Triangle</title>
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		<title>By: ronnestam</title>
		<link>http://www.ronnestam.com/sharing-some-of-my-thoughts-on-viral-marketing-the-viral-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-7474</link>
		<dc:creator>ronnestam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We agree a lot right now. But I do. My point with this one is that there needs to be a minimum &#039;thought&#039; bar. Then as always it&#039;s about professionals delivering on brief and on strategy. &#039;The boy who cried&#039; is a good point and I would say that&#039;s also the reason why you have to be relevant in multiple ways. It&#039;s just not enough to create your own ideas anymore. Or at least in lot&#039;s of cased.

To clarify. I am not a big fan och campaigns where you do something crazy and brand it. Relevance and brand/product has to be centric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We agree a lot right now. But I do. My point with this one is that there needs to be a minimum &#8216;thought&#8217; bar. Then as always it&#8217;s about professionals delivering on brief and on strategy. &#8216;The boy who cried&#8217; is a good point and I would say that&#8217;s also the reason why you have to be relevant in multiple ways. It&#8217;s just not enough to create your own ideas anymore. Or at least in lot&#8217;s of cased.</p>
<p>To clarify. I am not a big fan och campaigns where you do something crazy and brand it. Relevance and brand/product has to be centric.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Waldekranz</title>
		<link>http://www.ronnestam.com/sharing-some-of-my-thoughts-on-viral-marketing-the-viral-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-7467</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Waldekranz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  agree - while to me there is a difference between good and viral. Viral is not neccessarily good and the other way around.   

While the triangle raises the bar, or rather sets the aim for the strategic process I believe that we must think one step further. What ball are through the hoop?

Traditional media builds on the premiss that all attention is good attention. In Social Marketing however everyone holds a mic. We all become a part of the conversation, we build relations and demand respect out of relations. 
It&#039;s sort of like &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;The Boy Who Cried Wolf&quot; &lt;/a&gt;- his message got through the triangle, into the hoop until no-one would listen anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  agree &#8211; while to me there is a difference between good and viral. Viral is not neccessarily good and the other way around.   </p>
<p>While the triangle raises the bar, or rather sets the aim for the strategic process I believe that we must think one step further. What ball are through the hoop?</p>
<p>Traditional media builds on the premiss that all attention is good attention. In Social Marketing however everyone holds a mic. We all become a part of the conversation, we build relations and demand respect out of relations.<br />
It&#8217;s sort of like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf" rel="nofollow">&#8220;The Boy Who Cried Wolf&#8221; </a>- his message got through the triangle, into the hoop until no-one would listen anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: ronnestam</title>
		<link>http://www.ronnestam.com/sharing-some-of-my-thoughts-on-viral-marketing-the-viral-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-7459</link>
		<dc:creator>ronnestam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Carl, thanks for the blog-cred!

What&#039;s the value of a hit? Well, that&#039;s a tough one. 
But in a world where the effect of paid media looses its effect more and more every year we&#039;ll have to create viral effects in everything we do. 

The Bike Hero was one example and it&#039;s as you say ha Hoax. But viral effects or hooks if you like can and are implemented on a lot more than that example. My point is not to say this is the truth behind the viral phenomena but instead a gatekeeper for brands in terms of at least validating that an idea stands a chance. How many things do actually go viral - not enought if you count the amount of ideas that comes out of agencies worlds wide.

I think we should think viral when designing a product, when drawing a house, when creating a TV show, when writing copy, when building a boat etc etc. It&#039;s about injecting those things that makes your &#039;thing&#039; stand out in the crowd. And that, in most cases, doesn&#039;t have to be a hoax.

The viral triangle is for me one way of raising the bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Carl, thanks for the blog-cred!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the value of a hit? Well, that&#8217;s a tough one.<br />
But in a world where the effect of paid media looses its effect more and more every year we&#8217;ll have to create viral effects in everything we do. </p>
<p>The Bike Hero was one example and it&#8217;s as you say ha Hoax. But viral effects or hooks if you like can and are implemented on a lot more than that example. My point is not to say this is the truth behind the viral phenomena but instead a gatekeeper for brands in terms of at least validating that an idea stands a chance. How many things do actually go viral &#8211; not enought if you count the amount of ideas that comes out of agencies worlds wide.</p>
<p>I think we should think viral when designing a product, when drawing a house, when creating a TV show, when writing copy, when building a boat etc etc. It&#8217;s about injecting those things that makes your &#8216;thing&#8217; stand out in the crowd. And that, in most cases, doesn&#8217;t have to be a hoax.</p>
<p>The viral triangle is for me one way of raising the bar.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Waldekranz</title>
		<link>http://www.ronnestam.com/sharing-some-of-my-thoughts-on-viral-marketing-the-viral-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-7456</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Waldekranz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, like some others, have during the last couple of years grown increasingly tired of the word viral as it has become more or less a promise rather than a phenomenon in every sales pitch leaning towards social media marketing. 

And even in the cases when it&#039;s actually valid, or smart even, to have viral as a strategic key element I think there is a need to raise the question;

What&#039;s the value of a hit? 

How does it associate to the brand? Something that is even more important in cross platform social marketing (the only good social marketing?)
And what does it promise the customer? 
You bring up Droga 5 as an example;

Even though the campaign might be in key with their target group, aligned to your viral model and all that, bureaus today are so eager to call their success that  the amazing bike ride or the incredible stunt for Eckö (graffiti on Air Force 1) are called for what they are,  campaigns. A hoax. 

The brand is basically telling the consumer that they need to fake it to make it. 

I&#039;m not saying that it&#039;s all bad, my point is just that even if you hold the truth behind then viral phenomena (does anyone really?) These questions must be raised in this growing race for attention. 

Great blog,
thanks. // C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, like some others, have during the last couple of years grown increasingly tired of the word viral as it has become more or less a promise rather than a phenomenon in every sales pitch leaning towards social media marketing. </p>
<p>And even in the cases when it&#8217;s actually valid, or smart even, to have viral as a strategic key element I think there is a need to raise the question;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the value of a hit? </p>
<p>How does it associate to the brand? Something that is even more important in cross platform social marketing (the only good social marketing?)<br />
And what does it promise the customer?<br />
You bring up Droga 5 as an example;</p>
<p>Even though the campaign might be in key with their target group, aligned to your viral model and all that, bureaus today are so eager to call their success that  the amazing bike ride or the incredible stunt for Eckö (graffiti on Air Force 1) are called for what they are,  campaigns. A hoax. </p>
<p>The brand is basically telling the consumer that they need to fake it to make it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that it&#8217;s all bad, my point is just that even if you hold the truth behind then viral phenomena (does anyone really?) These questions must be raised in this growing race for attention. </p>
<p>Great blog,<br />
thanks. // C</p>
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		<title>By: ronnestam</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronnestam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tackar tackar :) Nightie nightie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tackar tackar <img src='http://www.ronnestam.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Nightie nightie</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Scherp</title>
		<link>http://www.ronnestam.com/sharing-some-of-my-thoughts-on-viral-marketing-the-viral-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-7403</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Scherp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Förstår. Men tillsammans med allt annat man tar in så faller den på plats. I alla fall i min hjärna :) Fint att du klurar och knäcker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Förstår. Men tillsammans med allt annat man tar in så faller den på plats. I alla fall i min hjärna <img src='http://www.ronnestam.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Fint att du klurar och knäcker.</p>
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		<title>By: ronnestam</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronnestam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope. Den här knäckte jag för några veckor sen. Sen har jag gått och filat. Men självklart är det bara en model som anger riktning :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. Den här knäckte jag för några veckor sen. Sen har jag gått och filat. Men självklart är det bara en model som anger riktning <img src='http://www.ronnestam.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anna Scherp</title>
		<link>http://www.ronnestam.com/sharing-some-of-my-thoughts-on-viral-marketing-the-viral-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-7401</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Scherp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Har du tydligt sagt det här till oss på GI? Det kändes som om det blev mycket klarare i mitt huvud nu nämligen. Definitivt en slide du kan ta med och snacka om nästa gång du kommer. Det är, som du säger, sjukt lätt att säga &quot;å sen kommer filmen läggas upp på YouTube och spridas...&quot; Det är så skönt att tänka så också. Känns begripligt. men ack.
&quot;Context is king - implementation is king kong&quot; som Tom Beckman från Prime PR sa till os en gång.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Har du tydligt sagt det här till oss på GI? Det kändes som om det blev mycket klarare i mitt huvud nu nämligen. Definitivt en slide du kan ta med och snacka om nästa gång du kommer. Det är, som du säger, sjukt lätt att säga &#8220;å sen kommer filmen läggas upp på YouTube och spridas&#8230;&#8221; Det är så skönt att tänka så också. Känns begripligt. men ack.<br />
&#8220;Context is king &#8211; implementation is king kong&#8221; som Tom Beckman från Prime PR sa till os en gång.</p>
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